What would you recommend? The original AR-15, and M16, had the so-called “standard” profile. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by tacstar, Sep 26, 2014. After that, the barrel gets heavier and thicker. Add to Cart. SALE PRICE: $149.95 . I reviewed a previous barrel…their 14.5″ pencilwith a permanently attached muzzle device in my ultimate lightweight build. Springfield Saint 5.56 vs Smith M&P Sport II vs. Colt LE6920. AR-15 / M16 A1 & A2/ M4 Rifle Barrels: Fully machined and assembled with extension, made from high grade 41V50 milspec vanadium/molybdenum alloy steel, button rifled, thermo-stress relieved, parkerized finish, threaded muzzle, chromed bore and chamber … Agreed, but the persistent hard-on for bayonet play might still relegate a lightweight to the days of M16A1's, sadly I hope that's the reason. I think I will be pretty happy with it. AR-15 5.56/.223 16" stainless steel pencil lightweight upper assembly features:A3 flat top upper reciever - Made from certified 7075-T6 aluminum forgings. I am picking up an aero precision complete upper and have the option of a regular m4 profile barrel or a pencil barrel. FWIW, the military went with the exposed portions on the M16A2 (Gov't profile barrel) to give it more strength and prevent bent barrels during bayonet fighting. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. The original AR-15, and M16, had the so-called “standard” profile. 5.56 NATO, 10.5" Parkerized M4 Barrel, 1:7 Twist, Carbine Length Gas System|Barrel . triplefire. share. AR Heavy Barrel vs. Lightweight Profile Barrel. The only foreseeable difference between thickening of the barrel beyond the gas port of carbine barrels vs midlength barrels is the midlength will weigh less, granted both barrels are of the same length, similar profile, and metal composition. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. InRange TV Puts Faxon’s Stress Relieved Barrels to the Test. There are many other reasons why people prefer midlengths over carbine length barrels (with disregard to barrel profile), but that's for another thread. I understand that the m4 is slightly stronger, more accurate and handles heat and fast shooting better. banzai70 (Page: 2) banzai70 Replies: 65 Views: 3243 1/15/2021 9:46 PM JasonC Radian Mod 1, Top tier go to war rifle or over priced Gucci gun? Government Profile Vs. Pencil Barrel – My Blog; Comments. In a build where an ounce matters, this is a pretty big jump. SALE PRICE: $115.00 . Obviously the Mil would never deploy a "pencil" barrel so we'll never know. The AR6720 features a 16.1" light barrel with a 1:7 twist, a flattop receiver with an optics-ready rail, Magpul MBUS Gen 2, and a 30-round PMAG. I'm looking @ Delton Mid-Length uppers for a current build & they offer both a heavy barrel & a lightweight profile barrel. They are great for weapons that get carried a lot and shot on a light to medium schedule. View Full Version : Barrels: pencil vs M4. Fixed Stocks. Longer by 5/8" Tubular: Fixed tubular buttstock, similar to the 2nd Generation retractable unit, using a receiver extension and triangular rear with buttplate; Retractable Stocks. Are you the kind of person that's going to do mag dumps at the range, then expect 1 MOA accuracy when you bench the gun? Reply. Wish List Compare. SALE PRICE: $103.99 . Whatever length you’re looking to build, there are AR 15 5.56 barrels ready for your project. Made in the U.S.A. Guaranteed. I understand that the cutout on the M4 barrel is to enable the attachment of the M203 but putting that aside is there any advantage of the M4 barrel profile over the pencil barrel? A1: Fixed stock as used on M16 and M16A1. IN STOCK. "BCM Standard 16" (LIGHT WEIGHT) Mid Length Barrel, Stripped (.625)" -- This has been on my list for a long time. By the looks of those profiles, the 20" M16A1 barrel probably weights about the same as the 16" M4 barrel. I'm doing a similar build and am also going with the big gunner. That being said, if you're not actually going to blat that many rounds, pencil barrels have no serious disadvantages for general purpose. Reply. level 1. FYI, both these barrels are in about the same weight class as an M4 profile 16" AR15 barrel. I would almost consider a 20" with a LW barrel like that. that wasn’t a true pencil thickness barrel. Lightweight pencil barrel 1:7 No A2 Glossary of terms Stock. Actually that's correct. It's a little cheaper too. Maybe I would do a steel shoot event for fun and shoot off a bench for fun but I'm still somewhat new to shooting. If you read my recommendations for your first rifle or barrel selection, recall that I said lightweight barrels are the most useful. Waiting and waiting, and now that it's out, I have no funds for another build (because I built another rifle for a different purpose. IN STOCK (10) Bear Creek 16" M4 Carbine Barrel 5.56 MSRP $145.99 . Special Price $7.99 was $10.99. Video. Can a Modern Pencil Barrel Take the Heat? If you’re looking for a barrel that will provide superior shooting ability for your M16A1 rifle, then the Brownells Premium Barrel might interest you. View Full Version : Barrels: pencil vs M4. IN STOCK. 14.5″ is the length of the military M4 and M4A1 carbine barrels. GM-M61 14.7" 5.56 NATO Pencil Profile. One Reviewer Was Not Happy With the Standard M4 Profile; Now we’ll be taking a look at the Brownells Premium Barrels for the AR-15/M16 5.56 NATO-chambered rifles. Used the 30 round detachable magazine. Muzzle device was later changed to the A1 bird cage flash suppressor on the M16A1 due to the problems … So if you're not doing a lot of bayonet training or running full auto, you can probably get away with a thin profile barrel. Barrels For Glocks; Optics; Account. I figured since my other AR is going to be a 20" govt profile, I might as well make this build as light as possible without getting into sbr's. just the standard m4 and m4 heavy barrel. FREE SHIPPING APPLIES TO ENTIRE CART. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. In comparing this barrel to other lightweight profile barrels, I feel that the term is simply not sufficient. Joined: Nov 17, 2007 Messages: 21. These make good carrying around guns, and even good HD choices really. DS Arms manufactures our AR15 M4 M16 barrels from the premium 4150-11595E steel in a number of different barrel length, profiles and configurations. This is what I use for my HD carbine, because who knows, you might have to dump three magazines, never know. Faxon Firearms. 02-12-07, 11:11. The rear half of the M4/M16A2 barrels are pencil contour. Time to save up again! You want a light barrel, but you also want quality and accuracy. However, it's not just about weight. The bear creel gun barrels are both 16 inches. Re: M4 profile vs. Pencil Barrels I recall reading on more than one board that the big issue was gas port location relative to the muzzle. Why we aren't given lightweight uppers is still a mystery, as is any logical concept disregarded by the procurement mandarins. Choose from barrel lengths from 11.5 inches through 20 inches and anything you might desire in between. I just ordered a 16" pencil profile upper from Bravo Company last week, and I can't wait for it to get here. The only thing to keep in mind with the pencil barrels is that if you use a sling as a shooting aid, you may want to use a Free FLoat Handguard because you will get a POI shift if you pull on the sling real hard. $188.95. issue carbine is a true Colt M-4 and I like my 16" LW middy much better. wedgeman. triplefire ... C4 FF Rail Using M4 SOCOM Barrel. Wish List Compare. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. On top of that, you have a ‘cut’ designed to accommodate an M203 grenade launcher. It's pretty close. specs. Likewise if your SO is small of stature and you expect her to handle the gun. If so, quality M4 barrel. Looking for a nice all around gun for the range. A2 - similar to the pencil, but heavier beyond the gas block for greater durability. With so many different versions and such a large market for AR-15 upgrades, longer barrels can also be found, but US laws on short barreled rifles place a 16-inch minimum on barrel length on civilian weapons. … I carried that 20" pencil barrel on a duty rifle for some time. M4 cut there because grenade launchers. And all their barrels are made in-house…”cradle to grave” as they call it. Wondering Beard. Whatever length you’re looking to build, there are AR 15 5.56 barrels ready for your project. Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.3 Copyright © 2021 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. Honestly, you will likey not be out on patrol, so weight isn't critical. i think the heavyies look a bit better an remove some of the verticle poppyness, keepin g your longer range groups better. All Faxon AR-15 5.56 Pencil barrel feature M4 feedramps for to aid in reliable chambering and extraction of round, and they must pass magnetic particle inspection to ensure consistent quality. I say get one of both, see which you like better, and sell the one you don't like, or build another rifle around it. Knights Armament Rail covers on a TROY M4 Rail system. The standard AR barrel with an M4 contour and mid-length gas system weighs about 1 lb 11.2 oz (1.7 lbs). And similarly you wont be stressing that pencil profile anything close to worring about damage. The pencil seems to be about 14oz lighter and is slightky worse in those same categories. The M4 was adopted in 1994 after ten years of design and testing. For a range gun, the pencil is a better choice. “Pencil” is commonly used by other companies to refer to .625″ gas block barrel designs. Special Price $39.99 was $64.99. View Full Version : Barrels: pencil vs M4. If you read my recommendations for your first rifle or barrel selection, recall that I said lightweight barrels are the most useful. Bear Creek 10.5" Parkerized M4 Barrel, Carbine Length 5.56 MSRP $135.99 . Steel conducts heat. 2. thank god for the aftermarket! It was, and still is, a ridiculous arrangement. I am picking up an aero precision complete upper and have the option of a regular m4 profile barrel or a pencil barrel. You could also compromise and get a medium-profile barrel, which should be in between the M4 and the pencil profile, which will be somewhat easier to handle (as it keeps the weight closer to the receiver than the muzzle) and handle the heat in the first few inches better than either. In the land of JB, he with the jumper cables is king. BCA Rear/Front Flip up Sight Combo . Looking for a nice all around gun for the range. The M4 profile will handle the heat better, but the pencil will usually cool down faster. They'll do just fine and the lighter weight will make it easier to handle. Between the two I much prefer the handling of the 16" LW; though you'll find either fairly light after that HBAR. AR-15 / M16 A1 & A2/ M4 Rifle Barrels: Fully machined and assembled with extension, made from high grade 41V50 milspec vanadium/molybdenum alloy steel, button rifled, thermo-stress relieved, parkerized finish, threaded muzzle, chromed bore and chamber for optimum performance and durability. Today, we call this a “pencil” profile. Chambered in the 5.56×45mm used the 55gr M193 cartridge with a 1:12 barrel twist with a light weight pencil barrel. Plus…several other well-known brands use their barrels. More than one upper is the name of the game; then another lower. Both. share. M4 feedramps.Barrel - 16" 416 stainless steel pencil/lightwe.. Pencil barrel is just as accurate, if you're not likely to shoot fast enough to cause any heat related issues. Black hardcoat anodized to gov. Video . Accuracy will be the same, the pencil will also be durable enough. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Faxon Firearms 16in GUNNER, 5.56 NATO, Mid-Length, 4150 QPQ 15A58M16NGQ - $165.99 (Free S/H over … 1 month ago. And also specific models for all your kinds of builds…from M4-style to pistol, SPR, and even exotic calibers. Add to Cart. My Colt commando upper is pencilish in profile. $188.95 Home ... AR-15 / M16 / M4 Rifle Barrels. Additionally, the barrels with heavy profiles offer enough thermal mass to absorb and resist a lot of heat during full-auto shooting. They're also not as heavy as other barrel options, and thus are still fairly comfortable to handle. About AR15.COM . The original intent was bridging the gap between the 20″ M16 series and the experimental XM177. Now let’s talk about the term “pencil”profile. For years the market was bass-ackwards and the tail was wagging the dog. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. My dept. Today, we call this a “pencil” profile. NTXGlocker Replies: 2 Views: 220 1/9/2021 11:11 AM NTXGlocker 14.5 vs 16” Barrel length for general use rifle. 11.5 inch, 4150 Barrel; 1:9 Twist; Phosphate Finish "Pencil" profile (.625 at Gas Block) M4 Feed Ramps; 1.1 lbs. Wondering Beard. Other than throwing the weight out forward and helping ever so slightly in stabilizing the aim and reducing recoil (because heavier things resist movement more), I see no other benefits. 1. M4 vs Pencil? I understand that the m4 is slightly stronger, more accurate and handles heat and fast shooting better. It's beefed up only passed the gas port for the grenade launcher cuts and (misguidedly) for resistance to bending with a bayonet. Whether you want a 16-inch heavy profile barrel or a lightweight 20-inch barrel, Del-Ton has the barrels shooters want. level 1. a1 vs a2 barrel profile, a2 barrel profile vs socom, a2 vs m4 barrel profile, a2 vs pencil profile barrel, ar 15 a2 barrel vs pencil barrel, ar barrel pencil vs socom, colt sp1 barrel twist, difference between a2 and m4 barrel profile, m16a2 barrel twist rate ar15 forum, m4 vs a2 barrel, socom barrel vs standard, what is a1 barrel Whether you need a lightweight AR barrel, a government profile barrel or an AR heavy barrel profile for your next build, Del-Ton has it. Add in that most of the weight difference is at the end of the barrel and it seems like more. I still say both! It passed with flying colors for something super light and short (full review) but does cost about $100 more. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. With the Battle of Wanat and experiments demonstrating the structural failure of lightweight barrels under extreme heat loads still fresh in the minds of many, the likelihood that the next infantry rifle will have a super-thin pencil profile barrel is probably fairly thin. May or may not have a trapdoor to store a cleaning kit ; A2: Improved stock used on M16A2. The m4 is a pencil where it matters. My reserve unit had plenty of M16s with bent barrels. **blem** ar-15 hybrid barrel, rifle gas, chrome-lined $ 289.99 $ 239.99 **blem** ar-15 pencil barrel, chrome-lined $ 289.99 $ 239.99 **blem** ar-15 sbr 10.5" ultralight barrel, chrome-lined $ 289.99 $ 239.99 **blem** ar-15 hybrid barrel, mid-length gas, chrome-lined $ 289.99 $ 239.99 Ballistic Advantage 5.56 Modern Series 11.5" Carbine-Length Govt Profile Barrel MSRP $155.00 . On the other hand, if you want to take this gun afield, something lighter may be better. They are pretty similar except after the gas block, where the pencil barrel is skinnier. 24 months ago . AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering … I don't see anything wrong with normal government barrels. 1 0 0. Best AR-15 Barrels 1. For one, the M4 is a carbine-length rifle, so it has a smaller, 14.5-inch barrel, but the standard AR-15 barrel is 16 inches. Unless you are shooting from a bench, you won't notice much of a difference in accuracy. Lighter weight or better durability? M4 Profile - A thin profile until you reach the gas port. the pencil is even smaller, the entire ,front half to the end. NTXGlocker. Faxon Firearms Barrels. Pencil barrels, as the name suggests, are lighter and suitable for single shot or semi-auto shooting. All 3 barrels are m4 profile and 1:8 twist rate, and 4150 steel. M4 profile vs. Pencil Barrels It's been suggested in several articles I've read recently that, when building a defensive carbine (which I am), a pencil barrel might actually be more desirable than an M4 profile because they are lighter and, therefore, easier to handle. 4 July 2010, 12:01. Barrels: pencil vs M4 I understand that the cutout on the M4 barrel is to enable the attachment of the M203 but putting that aside is there any advantage of the M4 barrel profile over the pencil barrel? Barrel Length: 14 in Additional Features: Mid-Length Barrel Profile: Gunner. If you need a refresher on gas lengths, barrel profiles, or different metals, check out the barrel section to our AR-15 guide before you get started. 1/4 pound doesn't seem like much. BCA Tumbler . UPC: 816341020047; MPN : 15A58M14NGQ; Optics Planet Compare prices for this product 745 . Bear creek arsenal BCA nato profile barrel, BCA heavy fluted barrel, and a Faxon Firearms 14.5inch Pencil barrel. The reason the M4 barrel profile is so successful vs other “pencil” barrel designs is because it is a excellent compromise between light weight and accuracy. The XM177 “Commando” had a 10.5″ barrel and saw service in Vietnam. Faxon started out in the aerospace manufacturing business so they know their stuff. They are great for weapons that get carried a lot and shot on a light to medium schedule. Special Price $116.99 was $152.99. Top to bottom: 16 inch medium heavy barrel, M4 profile, 14.5″ pencil barrel, Faxon’s incredibly light pencil barrel . Most people are "coming around" to your way of thinking. Manufacturers and retailers only offered the M4 profile on commercial ARs thinking that was what the consumer wanted (to have a gun that looks like the issue gun) and then pointed to the fact that M4-profile sales outpaced lightweight barrel sales. Rinse n repeat! The M16A1 used a rifle length triangular shaped fiberglass and later on polymer two piece handguard with heat shield. Even if the material is up front it can still absorb heat. Add to Cart. Wish List Compare. I have seen more than a few army cots put together using a rifle as a pry bar. DS Arms manufactures our AR15 M4 M16 barrels from the premium 4150-11595E steel in a number of different barrel length, profiles and configurations. The last comments on lightweight middys makes me want to apply my original question to barrels for midlength systems. On May 12, 2019 at 10:19 pm, Ratus said: You about summed up the idiocy of the government profile barrel. Faxon is my go-to pick for affordable barrels. I'm in NY so we have 10 Rd mags and ranges don't really allow speed shooting. Finding the right gas block is a PITA. Build will be a 16" barrel with mid length gas tube shooting 5.56. I understand that the cutout on the M4 barrel is to enable the attachment of the M203 but putting that aside is there any advantage of the M4 barrel profile over the pencil barrel? Faxon pencil. And a heavier government contour stainless steel barre (most commonly used in competition) weighs 2 lbs 2 oz (2.125 lbs). I think the question is really one of planned use. I have a BCM 16" light weight middy and I love it. I am picking up an aero precision complete upper and have the option of a regular m4 profile barrel or a pencil barrel. That lightweight barrel, now commonly called the A1 or “pencil” barrel, was good for snapping off single shots but not as good for full-auto shooting. Mega Maten/POF P308/Aero M5/BRN10 1 month ago. Build will be a 16" barrel … I guess we can only speculate. They will also weigh less and handle really well. The more material in the barrel, the more durable. M4 profile Barrels handle heat better and will be better for bench shooting, if only just slightly. The gist of the thread was to go with mid-length or rifle-length, or if you must go short; 10.5" bbl with permanent 5.5 flashider. Build will be a 16" barrel with mid length gas tube shooting 5.56. 20" Pencil Barrel - AR-15 / XM16E1 / M16 / M16A1 This "Pencil" profile Chrome lined barrel is the same size and finish as the original AR-15, XM16E1, MSRP: At the request of the Marines the M16A2 was given a chromed bore and a heavier barrel profile forward of the gas block, mainly to minimize the chance of bending (one of the A1’s most common failures in close combat). New Products Week in Review 5-22-2015. Thanks. Barrel: 16" chrome moly vanadium steel chambered in 5.56 NATO, with a 1:7 twist, M4 barrel extension, mid-length gas system and a light weight pencil profile. It carries … the standard m4 is relief cut, just to cut a little weight. Our flagship AR15 M4 M16 barrels and the pride of our AR offerings are our Chrome Lined military clone barrels; these barrels feature a M4 contour, 1:7 twist rate, M4 barrel extension, 1/2x28 muzzle threading and are … Rifles, Uppers, Lowers, Barrels, and more (Page 1 of 5) AR-15 AK-47 Handgun Precision Rifles Armory Training Competitive Shooting General Outdoors Archery Hometown Industry. The Faxon Barrel is MPI tested and Nitride coated. GM-M62 14.5" 5.56 NATO Pencil Profile. For a barrel that performs and looks great, choose the Faxon Firearms 5.56 M4 Gunner Rifle Barrel. A 16" M4 vs a 16" Lw is a difference of 4.3 oz (about the weight of a Surefire G2). FAXON FIREARMS - AR-15/M16 5.56 PENCIL BARRELS. I understand that the cutout on the M4 barrel is to enable the attachment of the M203 but putting that aside is there any advantage of the M4 barrel profile over the pencil barrel? If I'm understanding things correctly the only difference between the two is past the FSB where the M4 is thicker and has the cutout. Choose from barrel lengths from 11.5 inches through 20 inches and anything you might desire in between. It'll deal with the heat marginally better, and the increased volume of the barrel (not the bore, the barrel itself) will make it somewhat more comfortable to shoot as the barrel acts as a larger heatsink, able to disperse more heat over a lengthier period of time. If anyone wants a deep dive on barrel making, InRangTV did a series of … Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > tacstar Member. Report Save. Featured Products. Big Book Catalog, Issue:72, Page:026. 4 July 2010, 12:01. I don't like pencil barrels. jollyroger0612. A place for responsible gun owners and enthusiasts to talk about guns without the politics. The barrel is nitride coated and finished off with an 0.625" diameter F-marked front sight base with sling swivel, classic hand guards and an A2 flash hider. The barrel is what is known as a pencil-thin barrel and is marked "C MP" and rollmarks of AR-15A4 lightweight carbine. Why, so you can have a useless M203 cut that does nothing but fuck with your harmonics? Really, as we all know, a chain is as strong as its weakest link. Forward assist and dust cover installed. Report Save. redduck21502. So the M4 isn't really more dureable than the skinny type. Some of the most common barrel profiles include pencil, M4 Government and Recce. On May 12, 2019 at 9:46 pm, MTHead said: Thanks Herschel, always wondered about those goofy looking things. Is it the general consensus that a 16 inch barrel is the optimum length for a M4 carbine? 'Re also not as heavy as other barrel options, and even good HD choices really a... A chain is as strong as its weakest link Relieved barrels to the of. 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